From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: moving window handling into lisp Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:20:23 +0900 Message-ID: <8763d85l7c.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <4A6DAD94.8040006@gmx.at> <4A6DAF71.6070002@gmx.at> <4A6DBB3A.90001@gmx.at> <4A6DC1A1.2000208@gmx.at> <4A6DDB61.8090403@gmx.at> <4A6EAB02.6080701@gmx.at> <4A7010D7.3050305@gmx.at> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249093249 8589 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2009 02:20:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 02:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 01 04:20:42 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MX4DA-0006gg-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:20:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40150 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MX4D9-0000FM-Qf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MX4D4-0000Ah-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:20:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MX4D0-00005d-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:20:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59075 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MX4D0-00005N-7B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:20:30 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]:32818) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MX4Cx-0000HX-Rr; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:20:28 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.177.167.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.177.167] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1MX4Cu-0006Cu-Fp; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:20:24 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0E66DF96; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:05:51 -0400") Original-Lines: 19 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113493 Archived-At: So can you say whether, as maintainers, you support this goal, or should I just go away? This: (1) exposing non-leaf windows to lisp (2) making the C window functions more "primitive", and moving all the "user level" functions to lisp I think it could be done very incrementally, and would enable easier exploration of higher-level frameworks in lisp. [Otherwise, what _are_ the maintainer's positions w/r/t window handling? What I've seen discussed on this list just seems a huge hairy mess, but there's very little obvious direction coming from above.] -Miles -- `Life is a boundless sea of bitterness'