From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: gnu.tek@gmx.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows 64 port Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: <8762ewwzf8.fsf@bob.home> References: <20120219211800.0000558f@unknown> <834numv7js.fsf@gnu.org> <4F428780.8070902@cs.ucla.edu> <83linuu947.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcmxjr7r.fsf@bob.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1330062653 25100 80.91.229.3 (24 Feb 2012 05:50:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ajmr@ilovetortilladepatatas.com, Eli Zaretskii , eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Fabrice Popineau Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 24 06:50:52 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0o3P-0005SS-7e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:50:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58129 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0o3O-0000X4-KR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:50:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0o35-0000O6-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0o2v-0006WF-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:50:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([213.165.64.42]:48703) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0o2v-0006Vl-0L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Feb 2012 05:50:17 -0000 Original-Received: from AMarseille-157-1-36-116.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr (EHLO bob.home) [90.15.115.116] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 24 Feb 2012 06:50:17 +0100 X-Authenticated: #133045872 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/EtOAOjL7EkIOAxH6/7C95aXC0g+0U6IY9RLi3mF ngrB8EPlvRVZJt In-Reply-To: (Fabrice Popineau's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:48:44 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.165.64.42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148760 Archived-At: Fabrice Popineau writes: > But they don't correct the title and the article ... so imagine, most= of > people coming from windows and apple which try to have some informati= on > about what they know ... most of time Linux, they just rarely, for > "best" of them find the true. > > Speaking for myself, I have contributed in the early days of Linux (0.98)= to various distribs and sent patches to=C2=A0 > several parts of them (except the kernel). Most of these (small) patches = were to GNU Software. Just to say that I know > the difference between the kernel and the rest of the packages and were t= hey come =C2=A0from. But take it for language > lazyness / failure to impose a brand / penalty for success ... all people= around me (students, colleagues in France) > use "Linux" for the GNU/Linux=C2=A0system. (On the other hand they would = possibly say that Linux is FSF sofware.) > > (No offense intended!) > > Best regards, > > -- > Fabrice Popineau > ----------------------------- > SUPELEC > D=C3=A9partement Informatique > 3, rue Joliot Curie > 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex > Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 > Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 > ------------------------------ > <#secure method=3Dpgpmime mode=3Dsign> There is no offense, but, i will get the time to bring you back into reality, i live in Corsica, not far from you, have made most of my study in France. Last time i have works for the French Educationnal System, most of teacher just not know the word GNU. It is not because of the fact of public school but just the fact they are the first victim of the politics. (and our childrens just after) For private school, it "seems" to goes better, but from what i saw after 12 hour of speach with a student from supinfo et does not know about what really GNU / Linux is and just never heard of GNU / Linux-libre and the distro corresponding. (but he was very please to put on the table lot of crappy trademark technology.) The fact is that when the "super supinfo" student see GNU Emacs out of X and the fact that video is possible, he O_O and understand that it's own "superschool" and "supteach" make them missed a serious point. I am not offensed, by you, but my country, for the time they make me loose during my own studies, because of obscurantism and offense today for my childrens which have to pay the price of idiocraty. Please don't tell me that people in France know about FSF, i have spread about the FSF existance in Corsica from 2 years, and just before that, no one have ever hear about that. So no i am not offense by you, but no, i will not anymore loose my time with "superwin&app" thinkers. A guy have wrote one day "Free Software, Free Society", please get time to think and spread about that, for my point, i go back in silent, and try to upgrade my mind with GNU Emacs. Thanks to the Dr ;-D P.S.: for wikipedia, at this time, with that sort of people, (Don't forget that behind the CIA there is the "skull & bones") i prefer the silent too. But i will say what i think of what they are doing is so lazy, that here is someone which have already respond to them ::=20 "You get more easely things with a gun and a smile than just a smile" --Al Capone=20 --=20 Aurelien - Animateur P@m-Sarte http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Aurelien Free Software & Zen Minimalism Hactivist Fight for your freedom rights! Join FSF.org Fully Free Operating System at GNU.org ( ) =C2=B0 =C2=B0 =C2=B7