From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Kanis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: random doesn't feel very random Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1345787260 16568 80.91.229.3 (24 Aug 2012 05:47:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:47:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 24 07:47:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T4mk8-0005Ke-KR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:47:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56340 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4mk6-00013X-Ha for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:47:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4mk4-00013R-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4mk3-0006DN-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:51538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4mk3-0006D7-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so899942wey.0 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:47:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:face:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=ALLjVLZBCRC3jyUCXchLePe+tK6Kwgge8ct1ClLs8dc=; b=FQM8vpcPry8ZL0BckWA5nrIU3jpEbtAx49ahC7PnljkThiyTdCbWwiK6+0WYGo1R/c ICq6wApQE8CyHj/fuz8eT3POqPc23pmlr6f+OXsdZG3xnCayruYY+hL1panL5heFhMzx QCrCqzGZ+zssJGrRnxR91ZBMGSrUwcdUYE2c9J3qHBTRJTJFMHuSyIadWDFPqWyZgTIk rsJT2Ws1f8Epc3xWBKhMuItnU9N9vQ78yGwoFaSsuQAe0DF9QfejXrpliMlxZDEx1PAS q1gapY62xOhyPeARkVmANHLPpFVzYtkAYOXhgpOgoXzgYScPD9jGPDlfkZlv7Z3o0PiQ tssg== Original-Received: by 10.180.96.199 with SMTP id du7mr2625044wib.21.1345787253813; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2sm3846482wiz.11.2012.08.23.22.47.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152784 Archived-At: I am using random for generating music play list. I have found that it is not random enough. It keeps playing the same tracks. I have even wrote a cache of recently played tracks so that it tries harder. Obviously it's a band aid. Yes I am just talking about "feeling" here. I don't know how to prove that random does not work. Is it even possible? On a side note are we using /dev/random? -- Ivan Kanis http://ivan.kanis.fr Wisdom denotes the pursuing of the best ends by the best means. -- Francis Hutcheson I am listening to "Captain Beefheart - Im Gonna Booglarize You Baby".