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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252628 Archived-At: Hello Eli, >> From: Harald Jörg >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 13:34:43 +0200 >> >> I come here to ask for guidance how to proceed and to offer help. >> >> For the easy part, I created my own repository for cperl-mode at >> https://github.com/HaraldJoerg/cperl-mode. While working on that, I >> found that some things are easy to fix, while others need some >> refactoring, so things have diverged a bit, but not too much. I >> maintain the current state of my hacking at >> https://github.com/HaraldJoerg/cperl-mode/blob/master/etc/NEWS. > > Thank you for your interest in Emacs. > > If you'd like to contribute these changes to the Emacs project, I > suggest to do 2 things in parallel: > > . use "M-x report-emacs-bug RET" to file a series of bug reports for > the individual problems and/or improvements you'd like to submit, > describing the issues and attaching the relevant patches Ok, I'll do that. I don't have patches for all the problems, though, and some of the problems can't be targeted in isolation. > . start the legal paperwork of assigning copyright for your changes > to the FSF, which is needed for substantial contributions (I can > send you the form to fill if you agree) Thanks! Of course I agree, but Stefan already sent the form, it is on its way back. > Then we can take this from there. > >> Would it be an option to give cperl-mode a "dual life" in Emacs and in >> (M)ELPA? > > We don't maintain MELPA. As for ELPA, sure, it's possible to have a > package in both places. > >> In any case: What rules / conventions / tools and frameworks should I >> obey to make my changes palatable for Emacs and/or (M)ELPA? > > See CONTRIBUTE for Emacs; see README in the GNU ELPA repository for > the ELPA requirements. Thanks for the pointers! -- Cheers, haj