From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:42:12 +0100 Organization: Emacs Helm Message-ID: <87623uzg6j.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356162172 13945 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2012 07:42:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Mathias Dahl To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 22 08:43:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmJjU-0002aU-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:42:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmJjG-0007F1-Es for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:42:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmJjC-0007Ev-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:42:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmJj7-0003TT-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:42:38 -0500 Original-Received: from wi-in-x0229.1e100.net ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:52544 helo=mail-wi0-x229.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmJj7-0003Sh-Ff; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:42:33 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq12so2393830wib.4 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:42:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=bfLqtw+p4JYkkoVn/prwsC/FPtixnwDkwkfI7OkBUjg=; b=VklklK196wtkns9I7bQF57UJWg+QFn8jOaxJkbp76wuQAa0btBsbC8e+iR4diCE6pL r+aQ6DBsM5l/TfKAsxcX3sAFwAhD5CmT07AMWuPYuEBbG/0WtRF9pIH9wpjQ5kHGYNaf 8IZLyibU0yyJR1t21gC/VyKglNDRSiOvd/Dl8HX6187tYSGW5QBse8yRlTOuNS/rbrdp /F4P092BicTXXles//ju9y+FhWOkWIlww+ETpsgYJaPn3obPYNHoiIkpvx4EUpweT1+x gzlac+ppYIJLfbXpDGBU6Z8dsItKXQ/+/x/QPer+YPSznLfKJhIIbGx9ik7h69mHE2MH 5ohw== X-Received: by 10.180.107.130 with SMTP id hc2mr26726499wib.12.1356162142048; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:42:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from dell-14z (lbe83-2-78-243-104-167.fbx.proxad.net. [78.243.104.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex6sm21918862wid.3.2012.12.21.23.42.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:42:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:22:44 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155753 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > I don't know what you mean by that. I mean that your f11 keybinding is loaded before I bind myself in .emacs, e.g " e t" and I have a prefix error when emacs is loading. So I have to bind to 'undefined at start of .emacs. > Rebinding the key is a single step; > you don't have to disable the default binding to rebind it. No, see above. > As for the keybinding, AFAICT that is becoming the standard "full > screen" key in many applications; since we don't use it for anything > else, and it doesn't conflict with the existing Emacs user interface, it > is good to follow the convention. Disagree with that, sorry. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997