From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:43:47 +0900 Message-ID: <87620yhfsc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2v6dhkq.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362966240 8032 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2013 01:44:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jambunathan K , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 11 02:44:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UErmj-0000LM-WA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:44:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54507 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UErmN-0000tV-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UErmJ-0000ra-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UErmI-00018u-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:43:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:36157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UErmI-00018j-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3981970900; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:43:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8BB0B11F432; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:43:47 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87d2v6dhkq.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157711 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: > As a purely legal question: I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal > advice, but I don't believe you can retroactively withdraw your > copyright assignment Be careful. One clearly can't "withdraw the assignment" on files that Emacs has received, because the FSF now owns the copyright. You can terminate assign.future, and that would affect any files in the pipeline. IANAL, but this is based on real legal advice from a real lawyer (I decided not to do it for the reasons you give). Again, IANAL, but I suppose that the "date of receipt" and the definition of "Emacs receiving" almost certainly[sic] don't correspond to our intuitive concepts. I even wonder if experienced lawyers would necessarily agree on those terms.