From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:24:20 +0900 Message-ID: <8761yme4l7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <83vc6rb31c.fsf@gnu.org> <87vc6qdxfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87li7kex0u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvxrepul.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368494701 15393 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2013 01:25:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yandros@MIT.EDU, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 14 03:25:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc3z8-0004XY-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 03:24:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40413 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc3z7-0008Aw-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 21:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47267) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc3z1-00089q-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 21:24:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc3yw-0001of-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 21:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:37508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc3yo-0001lX-So; Mon, 13 May 2013 21:24:39 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76272970958; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:24:20 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 387CB1A4F35; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:24:20 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159555 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > And yes, I > have had people tell me "I'm sorry, I had an old executable > running for some reason", resolving a bug report. > > How did they run the old executables? I doubt that they typed > emacs-MM.NN.OO.P to run one. Doubt what you like, but in the cases I refer to indeed the path used to invoke the executable was versioned, though not always explicitly typed by the user (aliases, completion, etc). It's quite unusual that it happens without the user recognizing it, but memories are fallible, and when it does happen, it obscures the actual problem (or lack of it in the case of spurious reports of regressions), delaying solution or creating unnecessary work for maintainers. > But I don't want to run an old executable by mistake. I quite understand that. I have been at pains to avoid denying your experience or workflow; it is what it is and I do not deny that for you the benefits of keeping old executables around for various reasons exceeds the cost. My whole point is simply that your experience is hardly universal. Apparently most people don't care at all, while a few (including more than one active maintainer of Emacsen) experience the costs to be noticeably greater than the benefits.