From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git version of ELPA Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:46:55 +0300 Message-ID: <8761v81u5s.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <8738qs5qrg.fsf@igel.home> <87mwoz4w4f.fsf@igel.home> <877gfrrida.fsf@yandex.ru> <52087DDD.1020100@yandex.ru> <52090C0F.4020508@yandex.ru> <87a9km2msl.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376473640 31616 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2013 09:47:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 14 11:47:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V9Xfk-000176-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:47:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35348 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9Xfk-0002MH-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 05:47:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9Xfb-0002D2-A0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 05:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9XfW-0008G0-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 05:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::22b]:50868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9XfV-0008Fs-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 05:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e52so4709419eek.16 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LIXfgzy0jiVA4SlIuMxZcVepG+UP281ZDyr0FQK9eQI=; b=Id3vdzJvwxLPYGvgg/qbdvChaC2GoNGB57OBvAego9oUVpGNMm7+sZ4X8WkwOZCaAQ vY25I+LxfdlbYvBXdE5TPVBwrtYvoZQtlGOI1TLDJ9/WDgGVIeB4jJGnrI5ghw3du31e jUozTIjMWgnEP6hRrX/Q0aEqcYd+bho1Wjt5kdaug4nWkdfc6T19lppZ9avHqHf0SCJv CYa5FGZ9CG0GavYwoK4yFILGc38FkkKgGIGaxRXx2HGDrnqGqfLgmFKjezMhrVUIZSl2 DAxBQ1QSTPCDcB4gKhnzCq4jNCnagiQQQvzxlvyn/SPV3oGnbdbpRjmdQ2BytqC9AN8o NyqA== X-Received: by 10.15.100.198 with SMTP id bn46mr13599668eeb.11.1376473624512; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from axl (93-245-142.netrun.cytanet.com.cy. [93.109.245.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm73650847eeg.5.2013.08.14.02.47.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a9km2msl.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:16:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c00::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162700 Archived-At: Achim Gratz writes: > Melpa in its current form doesn't work with packages needing a build > system or more generally auto-generated files other than *.elc. Since > this screws over everyone using their VCS The Right Way(TM), I don't > think this is a particularly good model to follow. ELPA needs to > distribute _releases_ of packages, which necessarily means to add or > even alter files from the development tree. If using VCS The Right Way means not having auto-generated files inside the upstreadm repositories, then they shouldn't be inside the elpa branch, either. The packages' files get modified/added during the build process anyway, both in ELPA and MELPA. IOW, we're probably in agreement, but I think ELPA is farther from The Right Way that Melpa, since the former requires -pkg.el files to be present, and they are usually auto-generated.