From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: twitter.el, anyone? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:18 +0900 Message-ID: <8761pjcrp5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <0FA9ED19-EB0A-4CFC-826C-0CD0E6B969C3@gmail.com> <87y52hpvs9.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <32e92d75-5646-45c8-a216-ffe88131e2df@email.android.com> <226C3DAC-8918-48E3-A5AF-27E5A49BD345@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389922904 26893 80.91.229.3 (17 Jan 2014 01:41:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org, Vibhav Pant , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joel Mccracken Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 17 02:41:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3yRR-0000xB-J2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:41:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35762 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3yRR-0004t1-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35192) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3yRI-0004sv-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:41:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3yRA-0000Pt-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:41:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:40672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3yRA-0007wk-GT; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35589970A23; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 29C441A3395; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:18 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <226C3DAC-8918-48E3-A5AF-27E5A49BD345@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168586 Archived-At: Joel Mccracken writes: > One "hiccup" is that Twitter-the-company has taken a semi-hostile > stance toward twitter clients. Of course it has. The business model is (ab)using customer data for business purposes, in ways that often surprise and sometimes shock the individuals concerned. (The shocked ones are usually pretty darn naive, but who are we to judge them?) IOW, twitter.el has the same effect on privacy that Javascript has on software freedom, AFAICS. Not to mention that it's an inherent problem (the twitter database is closed and can't be opened because that would legally be a hairball), whereas the Javascript problem is easy to fix: grep the downloaded code for a license notice. If there isn't one, don't run it -- it's not free software. Otherwise, check the license. Then write an RFC to standardize license notices for use with software that checks licenses of data downloaded from the Internet, and create an IANA registry.