From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: clang vs free software Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <8761papobn.fsf@engster.org> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87r47zezcc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <1717629.oKfCLOpNI4@descartes> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390500287 4465 80.91.229.3 (23 Jan 2014 18:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 23 19:04:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6Oe1-0007fg-Pj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:04:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42620 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6Oe1-00063M-Bi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:04:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53541) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6Odr-0005rW-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:04:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6Odk-0001Lx-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:04:39 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:46387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6Odc-0001Fn-I4; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:04:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=xixnx9svxnHNImiZMzkk4S5r5Bt2rlL0JhFztRN4MyY=; b=I1ngp/QHNjOObNYD54ff5Exr3j4+Es0wrvnVLCrEVpZ6pMkxmxDX7Llupj3obBA5MfapmH8Mk4An+g9IPGPRtiRg7RFy0F8lJsCM10J6capb2t4oCOO18kbkI+wkwTZf; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-061-166.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.61.166] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OdV-0000EC-GY; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:04:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1717629.oKfCLOpNI4@descartes> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld"'s message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:35:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld , emacs-devel@gnu.org, David Kastrup X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168971 Archived-At: R=FCdiger Sonderfeld writes: > AFAIK there have been several attempts to make the AST or GCC frontend mo= re=20 > easily available (e.g., gcc-xml) and there have been several discussions = on=20 > the GCC mailing lists about this. But all attempts were blocked by the f= ear=20 > that this might be abused by non-free software. This is not true anymore. Simply compile a file with -fdump-tree-all and you'll get more information than you'll ever need. -David