unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add GPG compatible symmetric encryption command
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 06:09:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761orch7y.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3vbwrtj3j.fsf-ueno@gnu.org

On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:36:32 +0900 Daiki Ueno <ueno@gnu.org> wrote: 

DU> AFAICS, only real use-case is a symmetric encryption facility without
DU> invoking a subprocess, as Lars said.  This patch tries to add a command
DU> for it.

I mentioned many others, and so have other users.  I'm sorry if you find
it hard to believe our other use cases.

DU> This is not intended for inclusion (at the moment, at least), but wanted
DU> to show the fact: one would need fair amount of work to implement a
DU> simple and reasonably secure encryption function, even if raw encryption
DU> primitives are available.  So, decrypt function is currently missing on
DU> purpose (now that encryption is available, it is not hard to implement -
DU> just do reverse), and not too secure as it uses `random'.
...
DU> This is what I suggested to him before, he agreed, but has never been
DU> realized.  To be honest, I doubt that this feature is generally useful
DU> (maybe only Ted and his auth-source.el users are complaining?) and still
DU> prefer EPG because of security, but I'm tired with the repeated
DU> nonsensical discussions with them.

I'm thankful for your attention to users' needs and willingness to try
finding a solution.  I wrote similar integration code in my original
libnettle patch and am sure it could use similar thoroughness.  I have
no reason to oppose using EPG functions to wrap the crypto primitives.

But I don't see how it affects my request to include the crypto
primitives from GnuTLS/libnettle/libhogweed, since you've already argued
the integration work is hard and needs expert attention.  Does your
patch make my request less pertinent?

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-07 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-07  8:36 [PATCH] Add GPG compatible symmetric encryption command Daiki Ueno
2014-02-07 11:09 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2014-02-07 12:24   ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-07 13:15     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-08  6:24       ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-08 16:27         ` Ted Zlatanov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=8761orch7y.fsf@lifelogs.com \
    --to=tzz@lifelogs.com \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).