From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Further CC-mode changes Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:48:49 +0900 Message-ID: <8761gn2f0e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <53632C6F.5070903@dancol.org> <20140511211351.GC2759@acm.acm> <536FEA43.5090402@dancol.org> <20140516175226.GB3267@acm.acm> <537653A0.2070109@dancol.org> <20140518213331.GB2577@acm.acm> <20140912235948.GA4045@acm.acm> <20140913151055.GB3431@acm.acm> <87vboo2rgk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wq93ve4p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87egvb2kye.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410918584 22315 80.91.229.3 (17 Sep 2014 01:49:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 17 03:49:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XU4NC-00061X-Ld for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 03:49:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41638 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU4NC-0008Ln-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU4Mp-0008Be-Ju for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU4Mi-0005Pk-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:51741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU4Ma-0005GH-6V; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:48:56 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5461C390A; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:48:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F9951A28C8; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:48:49 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174393 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > The issue is not "backward compatibility" but *how* to get it. Evidently not for Glenn, David, and IIRC RMS, though. I think in fact you are in a minority in the Emacs leadership[1] when it comes to backwards compatibility. Footnotes: [1] leadership ~= vocal on emacs-devel, ie, in the sense of voicing opinions about which sensible people disagree, but should be heard.