From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:20:19 +0900 Message-ID: <8761dqlg0c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <547FFFE3.9000100@cs.ucla.edu> <5480E5E7.4010803@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417764069 5108 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 07:21:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 07:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 08:21:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnCG-0001jM-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:21:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49121 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnCF-00010f-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnBp-0000w9-2f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:20:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnBh-0003Zt-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:20:32 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:43187) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnBh-0003WQ-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:20:25 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759861C3876; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 16:20:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5754D1A2CFC; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 16:20:19 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178887 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > - The resistance to change on CC-mode's side didn't help my morale. That's one reason why XEmacs has a fiercely enforced rule that all changes to external packages go through the list maintainer, whose decisions are final. I don't always like those decisions, but conformance is a no-brainer with little stress. N.B. Now that it's clear that breaking that rule means I resign, nobody even thinks about it. BTW, you've been a great maintainer so far. Thanks!