From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:19 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <8761dg1ykk.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488DC0C.2070402@cs.ucla.edu> <837fxyt78a.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohiujcy.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418410992 30667 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 19:03:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:03:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 20:03:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVUX-0005lK-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:03:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59037 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVUX-0002YF-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:03:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53761) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVU9-0002Oq-SU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:02:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVU2-000803-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVU1-0007zh-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzVU0-0004oU-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:32 +0100 Original-Received: from p54b7feeb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.254.235]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:32 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by p54b7feeb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7feeb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HaniI7R1Oy/k5rzWMr5optfCT00= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179953 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > How would you format a title page as in the Emacs manual? I've left out the preamble of the manual that defines the title, among other things. In general I'd thing Org would need to have a derived export backend for the kind of manuals you are thingkning about that took care about these things. > Is there an "escape to TeX" construct that could be used? Yes, although you wouldn't want to use it in this case. You'd have to replicate its effect for all export targets you intend to use. > > in queries and create dynamic /agenda views/. > > Is there a way to distinguish between emphasis and definitional > occurrences and variable values? In Texinfo, @emph and @dfn and @var. > They all appear as italic in printed manuals, but may be different > in other output formats. See, that's one thing no "unobtrusive" or "visual" markup can provide. For Org, it seems that macros would be the way to go unless we'd come up with yet another mechanism for semantic markup. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada