From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 03:47:58 +0900 Message-ID: <8761d6cg4h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419101317 16095 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2014 18:48:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 19:48:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P4n-0001Iq-NS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:48:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P4m-0003C1-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:48:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P4T-0003Bd-7o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P4L-0006Hr-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:42820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P4L-0006Gl-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECCB41C387C; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 03:47:58 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C905E1A2CFC; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 03:47:58 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180398 Archived-At: Tom writes: > As a test I took the current emacs HTML manual (for simplicity I used > the everything on a single page version, so you may have to wait > for it load completely) In two tries (in private browsing windows, so shouldn't be cached) it took ~2 and ~4 seconds to load respectively. The ToC was visible in both cases in under 2 seconds. (Safari on Mac OS X "Yosemite") That would be acceptable if I just kept a browser window open all the time. I wonder if you could write an Emacs function to prompt for a node name and "send" the request to the browser window. I'm not sure how to make that practical (I'd want the completion feature, although I don't like the current implementation, see below). > and added a simple goto feature to it, like the one in info. Thanks! > You can press 'g' and a dialog pops up, you type something, the > nodename completions appear and you can press enter to jump > to the desired node. It is instantaneous, as advertised. Doesn't work properly in Safari - I have to actually select something from the menu, can't type and go. (Yes, I understand this is a quick proof of concept, but in Emacs completion is normally automatic and my fingers expect that -- this behavior would get very old very fast.) It doesn't work as I would want even if the completion is unique.