From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:47:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87613zer4k.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87wpwt5619.fsf@gnu.org> <55D36CB5.10803@cs.ucla.edu> <878u9879q9.fsf@igel.home> <19BD5D76-06A0-4FC0-A46F-760B2C27D321@gmail.com> <20150818194253.GE2262@acm.fritz.box> <0ac95dde-75ba-464b-90b2-1b19b348473e@default> <55DC530B.4040509@yandex.ru> <55DCE945.40701@yandex.ru> <41A4C5AF-6F4B-4927-8C42-E7E6048716E1@gmail.com> <877fohbf5g.fsf@gmail.com> <55DE96DE.80400@cs.ucla.edu> <55DF45E2.9010806@cs.ucla.edu> <55DFC130.7060006@cs.ucla.edu> <8737z396hb.fsf@gmx.us> <55E01CA8.80600@cs.ucla.edu> <87lhcv7qpf.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440751725 30945 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2015 08:48:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:48:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 10:48:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVFKm-0004eE-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:48:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46765 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVFKm-0002G3-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 04:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVFKV-0002Ch-FY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 04:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVFKR-0006vD-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 04:48:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:56661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVFKR-0006tl-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 04:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CFB6F2005 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:47:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ABTf3fsk3BNL for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (103-115.echostar.pl [213.156.103.115]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D31ED6F2003 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:47:43 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <87lhcv7qpf.fsf@gmx.us> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189256 Archived-At: On 2015-08-28, at 10:38, Rasmus wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > >> Rasmus wrote: >>> Can the syntax class be a function of surrounding characters (e.g. is >>> whitespace surrounding the characters)? >> >> That wouldn't work for classical Latin, e.g., in "AVGVST=C3=93=C2=B7SA= CR" the >> "=C2=B7" is not a letter even though it is surrounded by letters. >> >> In general, whether a character is punctuation or a letter depends on >> the language. "=C2=B7" should be punctuation in English, arguably a s= pace >> in classical Latin, and a letter in Catalan. Is Emacs flexible enough >> to do that now? > > But then you need to declare the language. This is a buffer property. = In Not really. You seem to assume that no multilingual texts exist. For example, I work with texts containing parts in multiple languages (usually, but not always, only two of them) on a daily basis. OTOH, one might assume that they are properly marked up, e.g. in LaTeX. (This is not always correct, but I might want to pay the price of additional markup in such a case.) > Rasmus Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University