From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:20:57 -0500 Message-ID: <87612pm606.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87pp0yktyx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <22029.59130.54156.957525@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87io6pnujl.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443815558 6661 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2015 19:52:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 19:52:38 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 21:52:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi6NM-0006g6-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 21:52:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi6NL-0004gR-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi5t8-0003TJ-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi5t5-0000cy-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]:36106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi5t5-0000ck-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: by igcrk20 with SMTP id rk20so24433233igc.1 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:20:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:reply-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=3Yi6BjUr2BxzLTvwCYHXyyRA2rbeZ+Z8z0MDnXJmecU=; b=i6DkiEDWS4tcnzBaRRV3Z0BrrHp7Ga3mQ85GBt6ozeVBJFBILYEj3HZz5OZ/hMarhC 2+Smip8u9Bc2ThOih5rE0s76MTsg4BVcCBIedVpdHaKIWeffHef/Ygl8GH0UxDukMExZ AyJNManYUVJXwAKkeZrxTcqjBivoCJuBGbND7ttVnqnxqzQhukar06QUuJVGe5oM6wnD wq16Pmtc5F4v3nXLvhYAqiYmk2EF39VD+sfkC7a0qVIWPKQx6FlcJ+aB4kYUBJ6YoaTG I6FW2eWa/bQmMCaIw0Z7bgJ8vTaI5Q7NmTicxo/xxZ2vWqpu6d+rXx+pnrGcxJpDbVXN Lahw== X-Received: by 10.50.122.68 with SMTP id lq4mr628917igb.87.1443813658424; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from floss (74-92-190-114-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [74.92.190.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z27sm5531065ioi.36.2015.10.02.12.20.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:02:27 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190741 Archived-At: "John Wiegley" writes: >> An important question for John is how he would feel about RMS overriding >> technical decisions -- that is, decisions John might feel are purely >> technical -- for philosophical reasons. Can John live with that happening >> occasionally? Because it surely would. > >It has happened before: for example, Bazaar vs. Git, and not allowing dynamic >loading of libraries. Yet both of these positions changed over time. I can't >think of a "political over technical" decision right now that bothers me; and >the fact that those that did finally resolved themselves, gives me faith in >being able to work with the FSF. So yes, I can live with it happening >occasionally. ...and that answers my question! :-) Thank you. >I further think that working alongside Eli would be nice, if he's up for it. >Having an active co-maintainer would relieve some of the time pressure of this >position, since I can't give equal focus every week. +1 to both the general and the specific portions of that.