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From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposed new core library: pl.el
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:31:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87611cnmwl.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r3k0us8h.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:54:38 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Artur, since there have been no further comments, maybe it would help if
> I explained why I'm not convinced: because parsing libraries tend to be
> very performance-sensitive and could take advantage of the core in ways
> that most other libraries don't. They are also rare, so it makes sense
> to treat them with special care instead of as just another library.

Yes, this makes sense.

My comment was more about dependency libs in general, not really about parsing libs.

> The only other example I know is SMIE, which again lives in the core.
> So there are two things that would convince me in combination:
>
> 1) examples of other parsing libraries in ELPAs (GNU or otherwise)

That I'm aware there's edn.el: https://github.com/expez/edn.el

> 2) examples of packages that would use PL *and* want to support Emacs 24
> or older (please, let's not invent them, I want actual examples)

The only examples that come to mind are the ones I was involved in.
ham-mode and SX (both from Melpa) both manually parse html and would
benefit from a lib for that. (Am I correct in understanding pl helps
with html parsing?)

I'd be fine with dropping 24 support on ham-mode because it's rather
niche, but I wouldn't to drop it on SX (but then, I'm not even sure I'd
use `pl' on SX because its needs are very specific and fine-tuned).

Anyway, you've convinced me that this lib might be good in core. So I'm
OK with this now.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-08 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-05  2:14 Proposed new core library: pl.el John Wiegley
2015-11-05  2:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05  2:41   ` ELPA policy (was: Proposed new core library: pl.el) John Wiegley
2015-11-05  3:00     ` ELPA policy Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05  9:08       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 12:51       ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2015-11-05 13:49         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 14:41           ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2015-11-05 15:09           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 15:40             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 16:58               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 17:45                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-06 21:37             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-08 16:30               ` John Wiegley
2015-11-08 17:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 18:00                   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-08 18:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09  0:53                       ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-08 18:26                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-11-08 18:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 19:27                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-08 18:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:04                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-08 19:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:10                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-08 20:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-08 20:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 23:16                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-09  1:45                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09  2:59                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-08 19:55                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09  9:25                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-05  7:13     ` David Kastrup
2015-11-05  9:19   ` Proposed new core library: pl.el Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 20:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 23:54   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 15:35     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-08 20:54       ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-08 22:31         ` Artur Malabarba [this message]
2015-11-09 22:02         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-09 23:14           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 23:18             ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10  1:45               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-11 14:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-11 15:08                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-11 15:28                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-11 17:27                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 17:38                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 18:38                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-11 17:03                     ` Richard Stallman

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