From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sort-lines including non ASCII Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:30:57 +0200 Message-ID: <8760shfm0u.fsf@web.de> References: <87bn2b6buh.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83zipun8cf.fsf@gnu.org> <87inwiom3w.fsf@web.de> <877fcxyk9j.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83eg75lbok.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467909839 26023 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2016 16:43:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uwe Brauer , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 18:43:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCP0-0004RD-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCOz-000377-IM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54407) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCCg-0004ep-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCCb-0007pX-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:60115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCCb-0007pE-5J; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.73.210]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MfqEy-1ayBfy20MG-00NBww; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:30:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83eg75lbok.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:17:47 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:G7vDnJLAlWsK3ZfKWH9R1scV/Qnv+ZvFN1zE4eQptYcyrqbbAJC 86xANcPuNysHUiOiEMxhntk8jADs52ThROM8llyquKACJu0I3uzm7yl2DKrzkTI/pEfDMUe DGciv4Y41rcMfSaMRVmbo1Fp7Na15Jndj1ntADe6jG9jqenOe25kvueVGm6++qYGn9H26cJ mwYyWS+jYamqNJEeAs+KA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:QY0K+yVOTMw=:FTyMb3399ToxSZammh60Fq CJdAYcgAlLf+6UVfymrxomW1KcXiI4sP1KLtuNBjAXgQjW3wQ5BWxvYmQw+ZOiZD9DaFif0/M loJ8v8h4CBpH5y9wHvD+25Vj34dVbGNj4UE9oxpjBr6K9D895azjY+vt0icGA8IZWaAE8Xhc1 ZSBIJQawNB28UDq//3KC8jhhToQLCnUSsUikR7p0pgWHRWd5Hz3dhibT3JBkU9AnvbaY2cNh9 I2WlF0GqqLd1FdrNI8kUYemjjBAnD4SA8NrrZqsa7f0GBUxwnwhSbAA9HaDd0Ax2uTD/NllD+ u3TI/j0L/CViVq3CHzduBS9SIp+O3/N0f5UGEb6i/WbBA4SDnfuIQg2q4fxwk61vkXR6Pxy7f YPDezKkdit7SnjQZW05ahhex7UTe7ltFqVZJcFtdcqFCv85JhUuSCGq7ePHWIiOqWnUIS2Nkr +OP5huQJ7Mj8ApH3LBe7DW9L3OoxU+/0QCXfNge/97fiBVmUfCiUcLyEHK1gGh8gUYb/c+mcR d3hQlGWe8+vqzPgbu5V8VRkTUL1r8naAJg4TADysDB5kSGlFmIzR40ItxxvHEjadIIWUaryNO XFfFTo9Yzv78oMVFhAvpQ+TcY8dxgILKdIscwceSGCIwxq5pVkaTRS+ujo8+/v1zBc+Yn3e2n KZ9khmyvweoPQLzTpo6nGmP7SehnFGH5o/0miaEoMPsuBNklumuNyqY+Q2CVV9vReSoVIFuDV uHdYRT5T04516p8IH3aDwzG38PaovTSH5TTXJXtuRR1ZQdop3ptDTDbwNhHjJnuzzplqpsuc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205354 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > How do you solve the problem of different argument lists in different > predicates? And how do we allow to specify such an alternative > comparison in interactive usage? Yes, both objections are a problem indeed. > Also, if string-collate-lessp is the only additional possibility we > can think of, why not change sort-subr to use it "when it's TRT", as > we do currently when sort-subr's PREDICATE argument is nil? Making > sort-lines entirely open-ended like the suggestion says might be too > much. Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. But when exactly is "when it's TRT"? Michael.