From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs tracker builds character Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:42:44 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <8760rz6iyj.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa5sa176.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <874m7kmkcm.fsf@gmx.de> <871t2o6t94.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpkf6pup.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469123705 27172 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2016 17:55:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 17:55:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 21 19:54:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bQIBS-0003Wj-Or for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:54:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42535 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQIBR-0003r9-V6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:54:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49631) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQH40-0007Qt-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQH3v-0002u3-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:43:07 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQH3v-0002tw-6L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:43:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bQH3u-0005Fh-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:43:02 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-229-60-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.60.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:43:02 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-60-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:43:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-60-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fNkFmsvXtpg0jLbH9yhPt0u8ZSU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205982 Archived-At: On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:38:09 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: SM> So, we could start by setting up a Gitlab or Kallithea instance for SM> Emacs and use it for pull-requests, while we keep using Debbugs for SM> issue tracking. SM> This lets us move forward on the pull-request and code-review front SM> without having to solve the "issue" of switching to another bug-tracker. Works for me. We'll try it out for a few contributions (so Eli and others can get a feel for it), then make it the recommended way to submit patches. If that works well, we can consider using it for bug tracking as well. On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:58:40 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:17:03 -0400 >> >> The license is the first issue, before we do that work. Gitlab is not >> GPL: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/LICENSE EZ> That question is not for me to answer. On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 17:41:15 +0200 David Engster wrote: DE> According to the "GNU ethical repository criteria" GitLab currently has DE> grade C, meaning "Acceptable hosting for a GNU package", and is actually DE> pretty close to grade B ("Good enough to recommend"). See DE> https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html Eli and John, I'm happy to wait for a decision as long as someone is making it eventually. I think the Emacs maintainers are the right people to communicate the decision back to the developers. Stefan brought up Kallithea https://kallithea-scm.org/ as an alternative to Gitlab. It's much less mature but GPLv3. We can try both side by side. Ted