From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Amin Bandali Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Three cheers for Eli! Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:09:54 -0400 Message-ID: <87602z2l3x.fsf@aminb.org> References: <20180528174225.GA4316@ACM> <300eabee-1f11-268c-619f-373399d65ad2@yandex.ru> <83vaazdiiq.fsf@gnu.org> <87fu23b1je.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528088913 27460 195.159.176.226 (4 Jun 2018 05:08:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 05:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kaushal.modi@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 04 07:08:28 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhjI-00073a-70 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 07:08:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37671 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhlP-0000EG-C4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhlI-0000Dy-ET for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhlE-0000vI-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhkv-0000fi-15; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from wn-res-nat-129-97-125-3.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.125.3]:41646 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fPhkm-0008TT-4V; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:10:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fu23b1je.fsf@mbork.pl> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225984 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: > Out of curiosity: why aren't GNU projects open-source? I know RMS > dislikes the term, but the source of GNU projects is available on the > Internet, so technically they should count, no? GNU projects are licensed under the GPL. Though GPL is an "OSI approved" license, and so technically an "open source" license, calling it that comes way short of conveying what it stands for. Instead of attempting to explain it myself, I'll refer you to this [0] article by RMS, called Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software, which explains it much better than I could. [0]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html -amin