From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: interactive feel of Emacs: the need for speed, and -Q [measure.el] Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:51:33 +0200 Message-ID: <875zeasexm.fsf@ebih.ebihd> References: <87tv26qvwh.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87mu7njm9h.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87h7xv44xr.fsf@md5i.com> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="25304"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:bQ87z8Wk5t7hG13Z7kLxRbIcgSU= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 08 07:52:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3dK-0006UN-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:52:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3dJ-0002by-KK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:52:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3cm-00025T-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3cl-0006LU-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:51:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]:58834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3cl-0006Ks-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jM3ci-0005mG-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:51:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 159.69.161.202 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246636 Archived-At: Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > off the latter using --no-site-file Thanks, that works with all my Elisp! Perhaps it isn't that big? Where is it? The man page for emacs(1) just says what it do (or don't), "Do not load the site-wide startup file." - OS/distro specific location/contents? Or is my Elisp just plain modular? :) > (See emacs info: "The Emacs Initialization File".) (info "(emacs) Init File") ? Seems to by default be, uhm, default.el and site-start.el, in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp ... only that is empty for me... ? > (which is implied by -Q), and you can turn off the > former by adding (setq inhibit-default-init t) in your > init file Again, that didn't brake anything. OK, so I greped the drive for default.el and site-start.el, either my commands stink or they don't exist on the drive. Most likely, they are not the reason! But do I `require' tons of stuff as you mention as a possible cause. but shouldn't that be sound stuff that don't overpopulate hooks etc? actually, I have 273 `require's! But as long as that's sound stuff, where/what is the problem? sum effect? Most of it is just vanilla Emacs stuff being required so configuration and extension will go thru compilation w/o error messages a/o warnings, I'm not a heavy M/ELPA user at all, not that I think quality anywhere should be so lousy it'd cause all this... Thank you... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal