From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Simen_Heggest=C3=B8yl?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:57:10 +0200 Message-ID: <875zdteybt.fsf@runbox.com> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mu78huhx.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k12bdgx7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1wi7a8o.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="79955"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , Tim Cross , Stefan Kangas , =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Gendre , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 17:07:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQuV0-000Kgs-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:07:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQuUz-0007AX-5c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQtOu-0004vI-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQtOs-0003YF-RQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:57:23 -0400 Original-Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:47296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQtOr-0003HZ-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:57:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=selector1; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=F5pqnuDbLezWjKvh4YqIT5Gp1+By8g/OMkwK9H3Q4Y0=; b=G5LxtwrWwZG0mn1+lKlZRwhuSu 8HPVRw2/0Ab8P7dI0VBEi1P3y9aGNwsHAUtHEnMLzsMXE9x2/YS8dkKPPK0Y2RKZ9LQbXucE9zxV4 oNJEqLosuE7MY2NN28DBr9XbU5M1DkqV6RV9ghjgEuQDrzhxgZs1NTjCDthxtGzaHU9EaEyZJ9JCa q6kMvvYbYuMayPlMIHPpKM77Ahrd3Lh+XF9hd4ve89iN39LmV3JsHpD9fy9IsenfjO2u+kJ/ts8rU tLgLzKgsrXelTWBe0KW5xwScQGzisKeU877f7tAKsTz49lulqYmcAE6pN/DbnGfRZWHb75mYpuJ24 eqfrccfA==; Original-Received: from [10.9.9.203] (helo=mailfront21.runbox) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jQtOk-0000Pe-S1; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:57:14 +0200 Original-Received: by mailfront21.runbox with esmtpsa [Authenticated alias (963757)] (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) id 1jQtOg-0001bB-J4; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:57:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:50:36 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=91.220.196.211; envelope-from=simenheg@runbox.com; helo=aibo.runbox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/21 09:57:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:06:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247470 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > For the record, I have a proof-of-concept package for GNU ELPA which > I call `gnu-elpa` and which just adds "most" of the autoloads found in > GNU ELPA packages (along with the corresponding changes to > `auto-mode-alist`), such that `M-x eglot` or opening a smalltalk file > will prompt the user if they want to install the corresponding package. > > It's not as good as activating `eglot` and `company`, but I think such > a `gnu-elpa` package should ideally be bundled with Emacs-28. That sounds really nice. -- Simen