From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Philip K." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: <875z76p4pg.fsf@posteo.net> References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3064"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 18:21:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUXux-0000dA-0m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:21:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52050 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUXuw-0002BR-2h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUXuH-0001KX-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:37379) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUXuD-000420-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5107E2400FB for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:21:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1603124461; bh=LJT1lLDOUWaxkwkfFku7yCvtUcO4MuK/AsQAD81dSN0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=X9ZmvjQCSz/pioqWgt5v7qfmFKWUQ5+chE9WVpk9qwBr56ewugWkPGQt/crhFRqN6 IIXmIbIOxNC9s6f+tOLwVYXeHMZObl2lPvgOoFW7ZknlIkLWcskJEq1xtKM/jXUyCI 8WcNkARu5SqttlmYb/CWaVucuXDUStB0vai4x96eKoc3COFVA2zD/0BhfPRrMEI2eR 7CQhsUuYl8AZIawB56VyE6KlNe0HeKv5gdd5A3gtyHJWCByEYrzquk41MqVL0Q1O6/ YjnaurjDCxeN3OoMrFAW73Y51rZ9WywiYEuQy0yNC7yLfNs01wi4DnmgBabnJLh46Y filDSTQmhXHzA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4CFMSX63VRz9rxk for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:21:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> (Adrien Brochard's message of "Thu, 8 Oct 2020 11:30:28 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/19 10:31:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258130 Archived-At: I can't seem to find anyone here mentioning it, but it seems the survey has been opened today: https://emacssurvey.org/ Sadly, it seems like they decided to use non-free JS for the web-form variant :( Adrien Brochard writes: > Hi everyone, > > I posted on reddit.com/r/emacs yesterday a proposal to craft and > distribute a survey for Emacs users to better grasp the diversity and > various usages out there. I got some very good feedback but there could > always be more. > > The main points that need to be worked out are: > 1. the actual questions to be asked > 2. the platform to collect responses > > Regarding the questions, I have a decent skeleton and a lot of suggestions. > > But the for the platform to collect responses, this is where it gets > difficult. Something like a Google survey might the easiest/cheapest to > make and distribute and will work on most devices, but it obviously has > privacy concerns. On the other hand, doing something like self-hosting a > no-JS form is very time consuming. I was also thinking of allowing > responses via email for people who do not want to bother with a survey > link and then manually reconcile responses. > > Links to the posts with the tentative questions: > - > https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/j6x7ad/proposal_for_an_emacs_user_survey/ > - > https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/b2fh4y/help_reviewprovide_feedback_on_state_of_emacs/ > > Thank you for reading! > Best, > Adrien > > -- Philip K.