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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, catern@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ido-switch-buffer is slow with many buffers; others are fast
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:19:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z67mpyo.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3a47443-c740-ee6e-ac54-06e050c9ca32@yandex.ru>

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:
> On 14.11.2020 18:34, catern@catern.com wrote:
>> I recently became annoyed enough in my 1000-buffer Emacs instance to
>> start profiling things.
>> 
>> I was disappointed to find that the buffer-switching slowness I'd seen
>> is the fault of ido-switch-buffer.
>> 
>> ido-switch-buffer takes over a second before it starts accepting user
>> input, with this many buffers.
>
> Which Emacs version are you using?
>
> A fix that seems relevant has been added in df4991093b9 recently. But 
> it's only in Emacs 28 thus far.

Oh, indeed, that seems perfect! So, forget everything I said before -
this fixes ido's performance to be quite fine with large numbers of
buffers. So that specific problem is solved.

The associated bug#41029 mentions:
>Many of the buffer locals (in particular I think it's the
>SYMBOL_FORWARDED types --- my terminoly may be off), appear to be O(n)
>to bind, where n is the number of live buffers.

That's quite worrying - that implies that pretty much any code will run
slower as the number of buffers increases, even if it doesn't have
anything to do with buffers! This explains the slow performance of
let-binding case-fold-search that I mentioned in another branch of this
thread.

Is this poor scaling of binding buffer locals a known problem? Has
anyone worked on fixing this?




  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-15  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-14 16:34 ido-switch-buffer is slow with many buffers; others are fast catern
2020-11-14 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 20:06   ` sbaugh
2020-11-14 23:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-15  0:19   ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2020-11-15 15:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-15 20:49       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 23:58         ` Arnold Noronha
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER (Was: ido-switch-buffer is slow) Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 17:29           ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  2:34           ` [PATCH v2 00/16] " Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 01/16] Add a test for let-binding unwinding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 17:31                 ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 02/16] Assert not local-variable-p after setq in let_default binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 03/16] Stop checking the constant default for enable_multibyte_characters Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 04/16] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 05/16] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 06/16] Use bset_* functions instead of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 07/16] Take offset not idx in PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 08/16] Combine unnecessarily separate loops in buffer.c Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 09/16] Add and use BUFFER_DEFAULT_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 10/16] Add and use KILL_PER_BUFFER_VALUE Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 11/16] Assert that PER_BUFFER_IDX for Lisp variables is not 0 Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 12/16] Rearrange set_internal for buffer forwarded symbols Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 13/16] Get rid of buffer_permanent_local_flags array Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 16:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 14/16] Remove unnecessary Qunbound check Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 15/16] Remove local_flags array in struct buffer Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 20:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 17:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 16/16] Remove usage of buffer_local_flags Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 18:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 11:19             ` [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-22 16:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 16:28               ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:41                   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 18:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:11                       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 22:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 22:26                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-01 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:20                           ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 18:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 01/10] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 02/10] Add bset_save_length and use it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 03/10] Use bset_last_selected_window everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 04/10] Use bset_enable_multibyte_characters everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 05/10] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 06/10] Disallow using BVAR as an lvalue Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 07/10] Reorder buffer.h for upcoming rework of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 08/10] Make cache_long_scans buffer-local when setting it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 09/10] Access buffer_defaults in BVAR if there's no local binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 10/10] Don't iterate over all buffers in set_default_internal Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier

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