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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261869 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > But how serious is this need we're talking about? > I mean we can already easily implement those things in ELisp: Oh, sure. But since this is a pure speed optimisation we're talking about, the Lisp solution would be slower than the (< (length foo) bar) in a significant number of cases, and we don't want that, do we? (Most lists in Emacs are very short.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no