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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272169 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Well, in Tramp the situation is different. It uses the default value t >> for process-connection-type, because processes might ask for their >> 'remote-tty' process property. > > I'm not sure I understand: do you mean that a Tramp client using > `start-file-process` specifying a nil `process-connection-type` may > still end up creating a process that uses a tty? In general, a remote shell is opened, and the command is executed there. So we have a tty. An exception are the "direct async processes", introduced in Tramp 2.5. They call the command directly, w/o a remote shell. But they have their limitations. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.