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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272850 Archived-At: On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 19:44:29 +0200 Arthur Miller w= rote: > "T.V Raman" writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >> >> ielm has been particularly useful when developing some of the more >> esoteric parts of Emacspeak:-) > Hmmm, my ielm does not come with C-c b predefined. What is the name of > function it is bound to? It would be very naughty of ielm to use `C-c b'. `But C-h m' in the *ielm* buffer shows this: The current working buffer may be changed (with a call to =E2=80=98set-bu= ffer=E2=80=99, or with C-c C-b), and its value is preserved between successive evaluations. In this way, expressions may be evaluated in a different buffer than the *ielm* buffer. By default, its name is shown on the mode line; you can always display it with C-c C-v, or the buffer itself with C-c C-f. Steve Berman