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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tweaking the output of `C-h b'
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 11:21:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875ytckwfx.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6iox02o.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 01 Nov 2021 00:10:23 +0100")

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I assume that people that use Outline mode proper would know (and like)
> the TAB action.  But it's pretty obscure if you haven't been exposed to
> it before, which happens a lot with outline-minor-mode. 

That's a fair assumption; still, I could imagine some users liking the
new buttons enough to want them in e.g. NEWS or Org buffers.

If that doesn't sound too outlandish,

(1) Should outline-minor-mode-use-buttons be renamed to
    outline-use-buttons?

(2) Should it be left for opinionated modes to tweak (and opinionated
    users to adjust in mode hooks), or should it be customizable?
    Something like

    - nil: never use buttons

    - t: always use buttons (in outline-minor-mode, outline-mode, and
      derived modes)

    - a list of modes; this could be the default value, set to
      '(outline-minor-mode)?

>>   … moves point back one character, instead of folding the bindings?
>
> I'm unable to reproduce that, but point movement in the *Help* buffer
> when using outline mode is really odd.  Due to the invisible overlays?

I can no longer reproduce that specific issue, so 🤷🎉

Another minor nit though: if I move to "Major Mode Bindings:" with 'n',
then hit 'C-p', I move to the end of the previous line (i.e. after the
"Key translations:" ellipsis) instead of the beginning (i.e. the "Key
translations:" button).

It's not a big deal since 'p' works fine; just slightly disorienting.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-01 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-31 18:18 Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 18:28 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-31 18:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-31 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <878ry9x95c.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-10-31 20:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <87h7cxx9bh.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-10-31 20:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 20:09       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 20:44           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 21:19               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 21:27                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 22:16                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 22:55                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-31 23:10                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 10:21                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2021-11-01 14:23                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 18:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-01 12:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 14:27                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 12:52                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-04 17:06                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:42         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-31 20:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01  3:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01  9:47             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 12:41               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 14:26                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 20:15       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:24         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  0:32           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  0:50             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  1:41               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01  2:24                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  4:55                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 14:20                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 13:34                   ` T.V Raman
2021-11-01 13:45                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 14:28                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 17:47                       ` T.V Raman
2021-11-01 17:52                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  2:37                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01  4:39                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01  5:26                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 11:55                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 11:58                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 12:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 12:46                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 13:43                             ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 14:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02  1:11                                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02  1:39                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02  1:55                                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-02  2:02                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02  2:05                                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-02  2:10                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02  2:18                                             ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 14:56                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02  2:37                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 14:10                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:30                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 18:34                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-04 19:41                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 18:00                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 17:12                         ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-01 17:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 17:20                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 17:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 17:27                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 18:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 18:51                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 22:03                                   ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-01 21:55                             ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-02 13:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:11                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 11:00                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:13                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 23:41                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 23:50                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 23:59                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02  2:04                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 14:11                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:32                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:01                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:48                       ` Customize SVG icons (was: Tweaking the output of `C-h b') Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 16:36                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-01 17:58                         ` Customize SVG icons Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:09                   ` Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 12:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 15:11                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01  1:24             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-31 19:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-31 20:51   ` Howard Melman
2021-10-31 21:32 ` Gregory Heytings

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