From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GStreamer xwidget Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:21:55 +0800 Message-ID: <875ysopyfw.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87ee7cq2mu.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ee7cq2mu.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15582"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 05:23:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvQl-0003td-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:23:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52402 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvQj-0000Jh-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53086) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvPZ-0007YI-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic315-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.148]:45182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvPX-0001Je-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:22:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1637295721; bh=3r8I0f089sYAss7j030IohK/8kSp1mTbtihALw4O3DM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=oQvg3COQb+mBzfPiuCdOF0aom2Z6a+f+HUil3Ye0gUlFcc2dpDQ8TCNnuOReoEwXG1x3LNOcUQ+nTiP798zRMINKOTjsTvrJDG285ke5JdFELhKA6qXJJR5ggCB51T1J8z5T9qTFBaE+/PD9Pl1sAlmzpyfJV+YHxnIhMwLOiP20LghBzb2OvgDtqDc4cH/jumap0SoyEBuCRcxLaAGT/DaTlQcqf+cHQNdXG0fFYUmUrlGHnyea50gUbAmb2LtGbNB78ToFK1SFp9AInowuXhAn41b00Ud3AAH0PaqqPNkZ1NjujMqIcH9E+wMfv8uACN3ktjsEPQaL3v0EwwBEEw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1637295721; bh=hv779stRILXKwHxbSMT+w1vHAl4N7PAEdD2Aw2J2VXU=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=A3Lu+npT2Zz6eGVkRZ3Gy0xughs0V4FLMCTcwFi6FqURldN6oeRRa5ZGAx97gzKDFtxh70hHNrTAPz/x13XxqUQveGeuugEm6xT1c2ri3fBJHpIuqJKqTDxoWrL1Xlg5DYggMW+j+9/6CKl4WnGj1H0xQv4KcjQPVoL2scGrHHXQznks2JbJ2m1kOQ8BFKBFCNysYUpYpryq40T8rFIBQf9kNIPCzzyfqORw7x/kWW2tQ7gCH9147sSI8mt07ikVpVemCHskXqF4/46KQswK2WTRgnoB2BbbcJ8t9bSuT9Y7eIMlGhXtLDOJDXmxRNk9VxOrIN4sItHo/DU8OCrBQA== X-YMail-OSG: hKkzV0QVM1m.wnkRCjLBek4HlwaM1sIHg9y3cq.iKR1MNXpjAAPNZfmptsMGYu6 NbhZtjkGXm5ys82BIeiP6VURlIUksdEimG7GkGi7fbkrg6au9MvKXrAPeDDjl8arvsISjjLoL3GL RMytum0hPPdCLjk2IrN_R42IAd1PiexCUzKoGrk.vsbnUV0MMO8np7ys0wHGrEJ0klrjfGXAlYAw jt6oIp.PraD0zhFD3DrUby7MNBRZhBWhJ31EanahpevP3FSSGXVSzFDKoebTmI0__6RJ3nyLWxBc 7.BK1xyUOag0uOhnaK_zvi.9QZIUgfjcFPwlrfKolsKc1putyV6iwQk7hg_2f.ENh3r4g1R13oCH Ex6hbSWPKe6X8PsVrMEEqwxnYDbDWHeI_5hLCGImOb1pilEdn1rclvWsfWpwCWJpaNu7r1TuTsKK CiKgt_PfQgbYq6pGIK34zzADL3Isqmo34IqiEdU93YLqih11ijrCS66OMXtfH3.iaiFNRrtrCGbq R_VDJYFLhyGDb95FwolWwVllmayYGAmNAbDOuCam8Xlr6e1iGIV68VVMKbLIaiXuMePRuP14qJlJ dKNKC59UMAW9TZafcOjN.oGJkUrgy9ep1sdDgLlIi0JxS.oNRujFWZ5NKkgGQJW_n0YLWrc.EDNM QgWLHMWUGUH0jyYN5hdfbZNxkoEUCtDK7Pw2Djt9ECySY_EZ7vb.d.b3lUBtIROPezEFj5upGQbT Kp_zBZLA8Z2FjhvuPAR3yVzTmX_T8H576XUlf128azyk7oPBQYRnpsfxIQtF5YiEekHca4GMu0sq 9sMyBLKCzaELSNAAn7pHu.zj.JzJ3mzufi.p3P8BxF X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic315.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode519.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 64d17f363aad0fa08ae3c5207df66e93; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:21:58 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:01:13 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19306 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic315-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279703 Archived-At: "T.V Raman" writes: > So this takes away the primary reason why one spends all one's time in > emacs; it's because all information in Emacs is manipulable as text and > more importantly as structured information with a bit of work, eg > specialized modes. The GStreamer widget doesn't display text, it only displays media. Just as we support displaying images and such inside buffers. If eventually it gains support for subtitles, then they will be sent to Lisp code as an xwidget event, and not displayed on top of the widget. So please explain why you think this is different from an image spec, and more specifically an animated image. > I sincerely hope Emacs doesn't go down that rathole as well. It's not a rathole.