From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 10:40:59 +0800 Message-ID: <875yrzg6o4.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87czmdqpv9.fsf@web.de> <83h7bo7rvz.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl1tjage.fsf@web.de> <83fsr4zfl2.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24vvnnk.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34170"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 03:42:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mumuN-0008fr-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:42:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumuM-0000pJ-Bh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:42:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumtO-0008M0-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:41:14 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.148]:36339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumtN-0000jG-3h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:41:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1638931271; bh=slLgj5SFqbNtIBZl3RJRfInUdsqXh/nb6tSITjP9qzw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=i1V8IvDnQtniB1z4eX84V/f3spn/r0IIUnNbKvfq92S17GNEuah5XbADF7pYTez33TMOBN4yMAzwhqSy9Na2h4AiVfy8axkgA/ZTVJuelbHSQLQ79gKSk4VnqX2l0vLc6J/V/wUM6hiALS92ahoC4Zmy0Sqyj+gtIqMAOhMRxXCWdF70/e5+4Bl2x9702H4bywK8B1atyukFWEY4XM73DjPpyVETmCuYo/PPer5tJ3p2N1/U7fyjacZiWr2sKPpER0NMDdjLmM2E0AzTJa9fhvpLfE5kGIJh7OdORp+8gFbmhKWUhYgLvbrRZfE7JHA3+ymoDH0wsJ5oaDzwXqZqdg== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1638931271; bh=JUPnpT08Ub+Bb0cDneRpeMH271ehZUdF9ohDQMHULeY=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=qvBrcsgg6lPAzfrdcK45e7xgaI8cLkWQpJ9CWI5T2COUX3a66rGxjtxEit/jkZ5DA0C/frnp5wAdBVPLXURSOA5OE2VyhRfdQzI35jUTu18dgRnRpUq3sAghU5HNn7uED+qjr+7wJRXNfvytq7CvYwL9oKBlPqC6C9pj6NeTQIestYCo79Df3EZrkwTwIgLnBImC++DIdDDSDEVwhFDkzjnyaE62CCCXerpoPSHoV3E2DPr2QhoLBYPIWK4eVRWavRhJt3yAzDoZRzdTpU4byxoZdaouC46yJ8ZtQum/Pqzo89UvW8IDfzftvTzirGSyE4qmtjKgQFt2VZHWqLBpSQ== X-YMail-OSG: Gq0S_W8VM1mqq2L_EzexIQr2alGHAdTQaCtfceCnLCAy3AR.o5ITFYVyCdjd6xf eshtneyXj0zfjtopDKyX7PrT1sx4TFUwOZw0kQLuUVMBH196FQ4n.4e1WPBZqOIUW8r8iwi0WeRJ gpqdF_4oLHL48Hoi9mS1UZtQNKj9iQ.LV40J8UMpbXmLghPDEYYan44.UztBg06ZYAwZgNeXHRUz xkMovG1fGBQksz6L29HsFzjOyXUwH_iSqfPy0gty3TWZ1.kntO.VeCgUb4hlrCFlx3486gSXjiLe nwzFSgpv7U_3SZnTRcC9ThYqi2qMfMLvxNMt2UVNLWS00Bg3NU48_sbGlqEzrpnoQajsEH1CXdio xRtjR3UIgK8zNMbB2tth58DUTqSW.4iCeWcFObBqPRqSqRCmIsU_Fa5VYb5j2zTAdqrhDaMR7a9d TPmgBMh65ZtxNmmiyUqnPwcvdH1v2puOqYsGCrgWPX22wbUy3MGYrD6Kw08.f8E4ju3nvCQE887J tOAEJ6qRxtXCJjnc48AFlRye_BjtcKeApswwPZKqwdzt.vmo9UPdht2.51xbVgcUMGVn6dnepxqS Fugsqia9elQrn6nGuN.is1D_yNBFhW7QFQFQTF9WTxQr5vNARJK3iMfz.G3w0_O_CIZSU1_1I0ii gicKbwQpS9VYadogl7jsBVAp.wMNR90mytUWYCYUi4yPRnJ4tzW.yZEa0GMKlG9myu47fFW.6ePs 66QFbJIT.d9Q..9WKyxSE7VrxdosbAjI0Ur3GJXgIfqyJjhWRqUbRP9b6Sug9CHS2sKzy2aJLGuu uJsqm2QplAa4wzaDbOBerYXtbarLDT9NZ6QShRaa18 X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 02:41:11 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode512.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 45be75bc6d26f0c978ed255f84411581; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 02:41:04 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87y24vvnnk.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:25:03 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19415 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281305 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Once this gets the default, the following will happen: regular users > that are not programmers will install packages and libraries, and then > they will get the popup warning windows. For Elisp developers this is > good and useful, but for regular users this will cause confusion and > annoy for no gain. That's my concern. Maybe the popup of the window > should be opt-in - unless it's due to my config that the window > containing the warnings pops up and even raises its frame. But how are those warnings different from what the user will get if he runs `package-install' on a package that causes warnings from the byte-compiler?