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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282867 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > 2. Is it possible for Emacs to work with that new method? > > > Yes, but that would require very large changes. For instance, Lisp code > > wouldn't be able to create frames anymore, that task instead being > > delegated to GTK+. > I am confused by this statement. The first half seems to talk about > the interface for Lisp code, while the second talks about internals. > Why can't Lisp code direct GTK+ to create a new frame? It's not recommended anymore by the GTK+ developers. Frames created that way won't fit into the GtkApplication framework. > Does this mean they have decided not to support Emacs any more? > Have they said anything about this problem? They haven't mentioned Emacs specifically, though it won't immediately affect Emacs, as we use GTK 3 instead of GTK 4. > If that solution remains possible, I guess the problem isn't so bad -- > a least, not with X11. It's still an imitation of the built-in GTK menu bar widget. You can still notice subtle differences between how it behaves and how the built-in widget does. > But maybe with the new fashion in toolkits that solution won't exist > any more. Is that what you're saying? Yes.