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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283846 Archived-At: Yuan Fu writes: > I think copy and pasting code would be more straightforward. Using > custom, whether by defining a custom theme or directly using customize > are more complicated. Plus I don=E2=80=99t know how to use custom for key > bindings. I didn't mean keys, just normal options. Not using custom means the user will be asked mysterious questions when he tries to customize the option later, and the customization might not work. > Yes. I can add that. Thanks. > As I said, if the package seems to be =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D, I can n= ame it > yuan=E2=80=99s-setup-wizard instead. And I have no intention to come up w= ith > an official setup wizard and make everyone agree on the provided > options. Those are my recommendation, not Emacs=E2=80=99. (Maybe I can add > some text that make it clear that the recommendations are personal.) > > I really want to add ivy because personally I can=E2=80=99t use Emacs > comfortably without a =E2=80=9Cmodern=E2=80=9D completion package, be it = ivy, helm, > selectrum, or whatever. BTW, does anyone know if is there a particular reason Ivy isn't part of Emacs yet? It seems a worthwhile choice for inclusion. > They are automatically replaced by text if Emacs can=E2=80=99t display th= em. Not if my font (Symbola) exists but doesn't really display them well. Thanks.