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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions."
	<emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	 xenodasein@tutanota.de
Subject: Re: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 09:18:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yprmq3t.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1r0g58hq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:20:49 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> FWIW, every one of those changes has generated friction, so it's not
> like we should feel free to change it any way we like.

I see no point in sticking to behaviour obsoleted by the operating
system, such as storing cut text in the primary selection.  On X, every
client has to cooperate with every other client in order to have working
cut and paste, and a single client deviating from that is sufficient to
bring down the entire deck-of-cards.

We do that for the same reason that we adapt Emacs to changes in glibc's
memory allocator: not doing it will result in Emacs and/or the user's
system not functioning correctly.

> I don't understand the issue at hand well enough to have an opinion on
> whether the change is on the right side of the tradeoff, but there is
> clearly a tradeoff.

I have a solution to Noah's problem while preserving the new
improvements, but I need to see Noah's code to decide if there's a valid
reason to install such a change.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-06 11:07 recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:21 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:37   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:47     ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:55       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:01         ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 12:06           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15         ` tomas
2022-02-06 12:20           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 15:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07  1:18     ` Po Lu [this message]
2022-02-07 13:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:15         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 19:47           ` James Cloos
2022-02-07 19:53             ` tomas
2022-02-06 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-06  3:39 Noah Friedman
2022-02-06  7:37 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06  9:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  9:34     ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 10:18   ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 16:09   ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  1:11     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  2:05       ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  2:59         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  5:04           ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  5:17             ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-07  5:23               ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  5:31             ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 22:39   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  1:12     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  2:53       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  3:11         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  3:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  3:48             ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  4:05               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  4:44                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  4:57                   ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07  5:29                     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  5:47                       ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07  5:52                       ` tomas
2022-02-07  6:43                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  6:57                           ` tomas
2022-02-07 13:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 13:18                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 12:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 12:56                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:17                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  1:11   ` Tim Cross
2022-02-07  2:31     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2022-02-06  9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii

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