From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: process-file instead of call-process in proced.el? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287530 Archived-At: Filipp Gunbin writes: > Hi, Hi Filipp, >> Would be possible. However, I fail to understand which command you have >> in mind instead of "kill". > > Well, at least kill builtin in shell. I don't know, I'd just prefer it > be customizable. This is highly system-dependent, so it'd be more > future-proof. Tramp sends already the "kill builtin in shell". Could we just leave it as it is, and add connection-local behavior when requested by real use cases? We're still in Emacs master, years from being released. > Yeah, I see, the pid will be taken from localhost, but "kill" will be > sent to remote. Can we for now just raise an error if we see that the > remote is not simple sudo/su/whatever? Maybe later we'll be able to > implement "get remote process list". For now, we support only local pids, as Roland has explained. My patch does this, w/o the need to raise an error in case of a pilot error. If you are concerned about the prefix argument for "C-u k" and "C-u r" I'm open to another mean for an indication to proced, that root permissions are desired. And if we decide to support also remote pids being target of a signal, that would be another game. Nothing to prepare now, it would be a major change anyway. > Filipp Best regards, Michael.