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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294074 Archived-At: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > Take a look at xdisp.c, and imagine what that will look like in > another 20 years if nothing happens. I don't quite believe that C++ will make it look any better, without someone doing the work to clean it up. Which might as well be done in C.