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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299584 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Please do not encourage people to load packages from MELPA. MELPA > does not cooperate with us. Not in legal matters, not in ethical > matters, and not in technical matters of development. What justifies this kind of gaslighting against Melpa? You might not like to hear it but without Melpa Emacs wouldn't be were it is now.. > A given package that happens to be in MELPA may be perfectly fine in > and of itself, or it may have problems of one kind of the other. > > If you come across a package in MELPA that has no particular problems, > we can DTRT to put it in either GNU ELPA or NonGNU ELPA. It's perfectly fine that is on Melpa, not everyone likes the mailing list based approach of Gnu. Offer other options such as a Gitlab or Gitea instance instead of antiquated Savanah (or make it more modern in other ways) and people might move elsewhere. Br, Bj=C3=B6rn