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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304286 Archived-At: Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 writes: > Po Lu writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>>> From: Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 >>>> Cc: Sean Whitton , emacs-devel@gnu.org >>>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 23:17:17 +0100 >>>>=20 >>>> I was considering trying to do a separation of UI and Elisp threads as= a >>>> solution, but, seeing this happen makes me think a Qt port is easier. >>>>=20 >>>> I'd still like opinions on the former idea, though. It might be >>>> worthwhile, but I am operating with little knowledge of that part of t= he >>>> code-base, so I'm unsure if there's some deeper reason behind this not >>>> being the case today. >>> >>> FYI: the MS-Windows build of Emacs uses a separate thread for input >>> and UI. >> >> Likewise for the Haiku and Android ports, FWIW. > > Reassuring, thanks for the info. I'll try making some time to do the > same for PGTK, though I can't promise anything. Do what? If you want to fix the GTK crash, you will have to run the GTK stuff in a separate *process*. Now that would be a real pain. Thanks.