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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306363 Archived-At: Jens Schmidt writes: > On 2023-05-26 08:43, Dima Kogan wrote: >> I cannot figure out why, and I don't know how to debug it. I'd like to >> trace some sort of message-transient-buffer-go-away event, but I don't >> know what that is. This is 100% reproducible and 100% annoying, so I'd >> like to fix it. Any debugging suggestions? > > Messages go away when other messages are written - probably tramp interferes > with the results you expect by overwriting them with empty or temporary text. Thank you so much for the suggestion! I didn't think of it, and it was the right guess. There is indeed another (message) call that overwrites the first. And now that I know this I can see another thing I didn't think of: simply looking at the *Messages* buffer would show the second message. Thanks much