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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306917 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > How would that work, exactly? Do you want to switch back to Bazaar or > CVS? No, that wouldn't be necessary. One idea I have is to allow writing: ** no title ** in commit messages, and to avoid placing such titles in the generated ChangeLog. > OTOH, I don't really understand the difficulties of summarizing a > commit in a single line. I rarely if ever have problems with that. I guess our experiences differ wrt this. Thanks.