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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311746 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=85= =E0=AE=95=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AF=8B=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 23, 2023] S= tefan Kangas wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Texinfo 7.1, released a few days ago, changed the behavior wrt >> characters produced from quotes, apostrophes and en- and em-dashes: by >> default, it now produces the ASCII equivalents. So, for example, "--" >> in the Texinfo source remains "--" in the produced Info file, where >> previous versions would produce a real en-dash '=E2=80=93'. > >> To revert to previous behavior, we will need to pass an optional >> argument to the makeinfo command in our Makefile's. But before I make >> this change, I would like to know if people here want the new behavior >> or the old one. > > I think using "--" instead of "=E2=80=93" would be a step back typographi= cally, > so whichever way we go, I think we should keep that. +1, I like how the manuals are typeset currently. > IOW, if we want to go with the new behavior (fine by me), we should > s/--/=E2=80=93/ in doc/**/*texi. > >> The main reason for this change is that it makes it easier to grep the >> Info files. > > BTW, we could make the Emacs Info mode search for =E2=80=93 when the user= enters > --, for =E2=80=98 when the user enters `, and so on. I think that would = be a > useful feature. AFAIK, this is already true for `, see isearch-fold-quotes-mode. We can extend it to other similar replacements too.