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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: follow-link in grep buffer
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:32:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874qg0gfsn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x54qg0dog0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:50:39 +0100")

>>> I have added a new option mouse-1-click-in-non-selected-windows
>>> that controls whether mouse-1 click in non-selected windows
>>> will follow links.  Default is t.
>> 
>> I think it should be purely and simply removed.
>> It addresses the "click to focus window" problem but nobody ever complained
>> about it (contrary to the problem of "click to focus frame" which is still
>> open).

> But that's what the x-mouse-click-focus-ignore-position variable is
> for.  And we also have focus-follows-mouse to have Emacs be able to do
> what it takes to give a frame focus.

Then let's use that.

> Anyway, I am complete against automatisms that get things right 70% of
> all the time immediately, with the user being unable to predict the
> behavior 90% of the time, so that he needs to check every time he uses
> the feature what actually happened.  If there is a braindead
> consistent rule that gets things right even only 40% of the time, but
> does not require switching on the brain or crosschecking for
> correcting the thing efficiently about 60% of the time, this is
> preferable in my book.

Agreed, which is why x-mouse-click-focus-ignore-position seems like the
right solution: it's very deterministic (doesn't depend on precisely where
you click, for instance) and safe and unsurprising since when it doesn't do
what the user intended, it just did a bit less than what she intended and
she can trivially get what she wants by clicking one more time.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-26  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-21 21:08 follow-link in grep buffer Nick Roberts
2005-02-21 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-21 22:48   ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-22  0:08     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-22  9:48       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 13:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-22 14:24           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 14:25           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 17:33         ` Drew Adams
2005-02-22  0:48     ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-21 21:45 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 22:20   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 22:36     ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-21 22:46     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 23:00       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 23:05       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 23:42         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-22  0:00           ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 23:07       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-22  0:44       ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-22  1:26         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 23:06     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 21:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-21 21:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 22:46   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-21 23:22     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-22 18:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-25  6:51   ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-25  9:46     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 11:12       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 12:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 13:25           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-25 13:40             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 14:20             ` Andreas Schwab
2005-02-25 13:37           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 14:10             ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26 13:53               ` Reiner Steib
2005-02-27  0:32               ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-25 16:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 16:47               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 16:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 23:05                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-25 16:37             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 18:09               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 19:44                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 20:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 20:32                     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 20:53                     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 20:27                   ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 21:24                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-25 23:34                     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-26  0:44                       ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26  1:18                         ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 23:35         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-26  2:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-26  2:50             ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26  3:32               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-02-26 22:24             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-27  2:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-27  8:26                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-27 21:46                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-27 22:09                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-28  1:03                     ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-25 22:53       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-26  0:16         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26 22:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 22:52     ` Richard Stallman

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