From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lute Kamstra Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with debug-on-entry in the Lisp debugger. Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: <874qfk7m9u.fsf@xs4all.nl> References: <87sm37n2bv.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87is42c8yp.fsf@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110390992 32669 80.91.229.2 (9 Mar 2005 17:56:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 18:56:32 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D95Nb-0005YZ-RS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:53:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D95cK-0005ap-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D95Zy-00059z-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:06:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D95Zk-00052C-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:06:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D95Ze-0004zR-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:06:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.109.24.22] (helo=smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D958I-0004Fi-9b; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:38:06 -0500 Original-Received: from pijl (a80-127-67-124.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.127.67.124]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j29Hc5ur084796; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 18:38:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Lute.Kamstra@xs4all.nl) Original-Received: from lute by pijl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1D958H-0000b0-00; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:38:05 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:58:47 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Original-Lines: 22 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34383 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34383 Richard Stallman writes: > Below is a quick "proof-of-concept" patch for src/eval.c and > lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el to get a better idea of what I mean. > As you can see, the change to eval.c isn't that big. > > The code is not unclean, but I don't think it is a real problem > that the debug-on-entry code is visible. So I'd rather not > go in this direction. Ok, I'll cease my efforts to convince you then. ;-) > This is not the part of Emacs that is important to improve. > Hackers tend to focus their attention on the parts of Emacs > that make it seem more elegant in programmers' terms, > but this doesn't make Emacs more powerful or a better editor. > > Could you possibly look at implementing something listed in etc/TODO? I'll take a look to see if there's anything that strikes my fancy. Lute.