From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:34 +0900 Message-ID: <874pc0leip.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85ablvftqe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201130y1601cd6dvf22a8089e2de97f7@mail.gmail.com> <858x1fe6fc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201241o4a2a70d0xb823b3fa27692bfd@mail.gmail.com> <87zltujk8n.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203725427 28452 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2008 00:10:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, david.delaharpe.golden@gmail.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 01:10:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JShyT-00031j-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:10:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JShxy-0006NC-4D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JShxt-0006Lo-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:10:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JShxr-0006KU-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JShxr-0006KR-1q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JShxj-0005yq-JH; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:09:56 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-013.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.13] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JShxP-0003CL-JT; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:35 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7535B2FF7; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:34 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:08 -0500") Original-Lines: 27 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90067 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > No it's not. If that feature is desired (seems ok to me), it should > just be added to normal t-m-m. > > That makes sense to me. Just as C-SPC C-SPC enables a temporarily > specially active region when that's not the default (Transient Mark > mode disabled), it could set the mark and not activate in the mode > where activating is the default (Transient Mark mode enabled). > > I am not sure whether it is useful, but there is no reason to reject > it if it is useful. Now that I think about it, I really like this idea: it's very easy to understand that C-SPC C-SPC and C-SPC are "active and non-active" mark-setting commands, and simply swap roles depending on whether full-t-m-mode is enabled, and obviously C-SPC C-SPC is very convenient to type. I've never really used the "push a mark" command much, as I use t-m-mode, but I think if C-SPC C-SPC pushed a non-active mark, I would use it more often. -Miles -- Freebooter, n. A conqueror in a small way of business, whose annexations lack of the sanctifying merit of magnitude.