From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:13:46 +0900 Message-ID: <874pbf1r6t.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205100874 16669 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 22:14:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 23:15:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYTn1-0008Pn-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:14:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYTmT-0001Yr-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYTmP-0001YO-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYTmJ-0001Xf-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYTmJ-0001Xa-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYTmC-0007zA-H0; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-96-086.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.96.86] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JYTm8-00084Y-5Q; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:13:48 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFF862FF7; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:13:46 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:06:37 +0100") Original-Lines: 21 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91929 Archived-At: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: >> I think something similar would be a great basis for implementing this >> feature for default emacs use -- it's very simple and does exactly >> what's wanted for the typical user. > > IMO that approach is severely broken for several reasons. Why? > And it is not _excatly_ what any typical user wants. Why? I've actually been using this code all day, and it seems to work absolutely great. It certainly matches the instincts I've acquired from using other apps (which all use shift-select "natively"). -Miles -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.