From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.50; Middle w in of permissions in dired-mode is red and bold: dired-warning Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:07:10 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874pbawajq.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87hckt9z1u.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <878x0n1g86.fsf@jurta.org> <87prtyx63t.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205457227 12263 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 01:13:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 02:14:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZyUv-0004Rg-Se for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:14:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZyUM-0006yu-P8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZySb-0006FM-OR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:11:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZySa-0006Ec-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZySZ-0006EI-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZySW-0005ZO-5G; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:11:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZySO-000ARE-Oh; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:11:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:16:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 308c5668300cb665e09cc4617523e4c8 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2413 [Mar 14 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92462 Archived-At: >> >> I propose a patch below for the 22 branch that renames the face >> >> `dired-warn-writable' to more appropriate name `dired-perm-write' >> >> that doesn't associate it with a warning, and changes its parent face >> >> from `font-lock-warning-face' to `font-lock-comment-delimiter-face' >> >> on non-Windows platforms. >> > >> > I object. I think now is not the time for making behavioral changes >> > in the release branch. We are too close to the release. >> >> This is not a behavioral change. > > Changes in faces are changes in behavior. Faces are not behavior. Faces are a visual appearance. >> This is a fix for the grave usability bug >> you introduced to GNU/Linux users. It seems you realize the severity of >> this problem since you wrote several times proposing to fix it: > > That was in October, 6 months ago. _Then_ I didn't mind, as I don't > mind now that you make this change on the trunk. OK, installed on the trunk. >> I think it is not yet too late to fix this bug > > I think it is too late. This can be considered as a bug discovered during the pretest. What a sense to make pretests if it is not allowed to fix bugs found in these pretests?! -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/