From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pretest, devel and bug lists Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:34:46 +0200 Message-ID: <874p8iq121.fsf@escher.local.home> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211963715 20903 80.91.229.12 (28 May 2008 08:35:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:35:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 28 10:35:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K1H8W-0004QU-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 10:35:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34068 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1H7k-0000yk-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1H7d-0000yM-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1H7a-0000xo-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:34:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49624 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1H7a-0000xl-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:34:58 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:52046 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K1H7Z-0007L3-OK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:34:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K1H7X-0007JH-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:34:56 +0000 Original-Received: from i5387d986.versanet.de ([83.135.217.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:34:55 +0000 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i5387d986.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:34:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i5387d986.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97879 Archived-At: On Tue, 27 May 2008 20:49:07 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> If things sent to emacs-pretest-bug are being fed into a bug tracker >> and sent to bug-gnu-emacs, then I would say there is no need for >> copies to _also_ be sent to emacs-devel. > > AFAIK messages sent to bug-gnu-emacs pass through the bug-tracker, but > not messages sent to emacs-pretest-bug (which are redirected to > emacs-devel instead). Since (and because) this redirection was instituted I have usually sent bug reports directly to emacs-devel, except where I thought it was more helpful or convenient to use report-emacs-bug. > I think this should be changed so that messages sent to > emacs-pretest-bug do not go to emacs-devel any more but go to the > bug-tracker instead. If this is done, should *no* bug reports be sent any longer to emacs-devel (and if they were, would that lower their chances of getting attended to)? It might be helpful for a maintainer to issue a policy statement (preferably clearly recognizable as such) about this. Steve Berman