From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Short explanation for & in key ! of dired Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:05:28 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874p7ifonh.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87hcbkpo0e.fsf@gmail.com> <86y74wzeq1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214349306 23977 80.91.229.12 (24 Jun 2008 23:15:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Clemente , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 01:15:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBHjq-00064f-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:15:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38372 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBHj0-0000W7-Qt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBHiO-0000CL-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBHiN-0000Bo-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43831 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBHiN-0000Bj-Bl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]:57563) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBHiB-0008GD-Hi; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KBHi6-0007ql-Vk; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:14:03 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:31:52 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4070 [June 25 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99876 Archived-At: >> Pity & is already taken for dired-flag-garbage-files. It would be an >> obvious candidate for starting commands in the background. > > Yup. > > Does anybody use dired-flag-garbage-files? > > It seems dangerously vague... Unlike its counterpart commands `#' (flag auto-save files) and `~' (flag backup files), the key `&' to flag "garbage" files is not mnemonic. The proposed command to execute a dired command asynchronously has much better mnemonics for `&'. Then I see that the key `M-&' is free for the global key binding, so maybe use it to execute a command asynchronously in any buffer like `M-!'. Another usual problem for newbies to how to execute multiple commands asynchronously. The trick is to rename the existing buffer *Async Shell Command*, but this is unobvious. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/