From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: document the bug-tracker Web site? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:25:03 +0200 Message-ID: <874p0yky5s.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <002601c961fe$9a22f720$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <494C6875.7030208@f2s.com> <494DAF5D.9060905@f2s.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229829945 9318 80.91.229.12 (21 Dec 2008 03:25:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 04:26:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEExs-000308-Vm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:26:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50082 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEEwg-00021W-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:25:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEEwa-00021R-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:25:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEEwX-00021F-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:25:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34720 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEEwX-00021C-IV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from igloo.linux.gr ([62.1.205.36]:53387) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LEEwW-0004u6-Qd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl28-172.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.155.172]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mBL3P7aO016550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:25:12 +0200 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mBL3P77L004350; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:25:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mBL3P3jB004349; Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:25:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) In-Reply-To: <494DAF5D.9060905@f2s.com> (Jason Rumney's message of "Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:52:13 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) X-MailScanner-ID: mBL3P7aO016550 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.865, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.53, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107151 Archived-At: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:52:13 +0800, Jason Rumney wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I don't see why we should wait. We use it right now, so it's "the real >> thing". When we move it elsewhere (or switch to some other tool), we >> will need to update the page correspondingly. > > So we end up with versions of the manuals out there with an obsolete > bug database site address, which we knew in advance would happen > before we released those manuals. > > Can we ask the FSF admins to set up a redirection now from say > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/bugs to the current bug database, > then when we move it to gnu.org, we need only change the redirection, > and the existing manuals will remain accurate. The time window between the release of Emacs 23.1 and the release of 24.1 may be slightly large. So I think it makes sense to have some way to avoid links in the manual that are going to be obsolete when the move happens. Setting up the redirection now and using the www.gnu.org link is a good way of avoiding the problem of an obsolete link in the manual :)