From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finder.el UI Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:33:54 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874ok8z571.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zl2g24xy.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxyfq3bz.fsf@gmx.de> <87sk87h49a.fsf@gmx.de> <87hbomwu4b.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <878w9yr0zh.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <87pr37ka78.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fx41uwl4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <874okc6x5p.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87y6hnq59o.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878w9k1o1g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fx3szaxt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874ok8pf85.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269275699 22029 80.91.229.12 (22 Mar 2010 16:34:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:34:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 17:34:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntkac-00068X-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:34:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35460 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntkab-0002eP-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NtkZz-0002Ao-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58752 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtkZu-000259-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtkZs-0004mG-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtkZr-0004lm-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtkZp-0005do-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:34:05 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:34:05 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:34:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:keWjjM1e7dF+BqbyLEXKRJd+fDo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122487 Archived-At: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:08:27 +0200 Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> I tried it and it's a browser that deadends at the commentary. Wouldn't >>>> it make sense to at least let the user browse the original package >>>> sources? But this is still much better than the old finder and I would >>>> get rid of the old one. But you mention another finder: >> SM> Indeed, maybe we should move finder.el to lisp/obsolete? >> >> Works for me. But Juri's `finder' looks better than `info-finder' so >> perhaps `info-finder' can be folded into it. JL> You are comparing apples and oranges. `info-finder' is an Info manual JL> useful to browse a list of keywords. My `finder' is a part of separate JL> package with different goals. I referred to it only to show you an example JL> how UI of package.el could look. Sorry I misunderstood your intent. JL> Besides the old Finder UI, finder.el also contains code that JL> collects keywords and generates finder-inf.el with keyword data JL> that is used by other interfaces. I think that's: finder-compile-keywords-make-dist finder-compile-keywords finder-commentary plus the initialization code and variables. So the rest: interactive functions, support and the mode support (keymaps, summary, etc.) could be removed safely, or maybe moved to lisp/obsolete/finder-old.el. JL> I think package.el should have its own UI designed for its JL> requirements. All right. Thank you for explaining. Ted